Victory Records has expanded so much since the days of Blood For Blood, Earth Crisis, Strife, and Deadguy. They went from releasing hardcore cds to releasing mainly whatever you would refer to bands likethis is, and frankly I'm sick of trying to figure out what to call this stuff. I guess you can listen to the below Mp3s and make up your own mind.
This band sounds a crapload like Thursday, but this guy's voice is a little better and not as off-tune as the guy from Thursday. However they follow the same sing and (unessesary) screaming. Save the screaming for death metal and grindcore, where it makes sense. If they were to get rid of that I'd be rating this a bit higher. They have part similar to hardcore breakdowns... and I'm almost 100% sure every 16 year old on this site will have these guys in their favorite band list within the month this is released.
All in all... this is definetly nothing original. If too many bands keep releasing stuff like this and I have to keep reviewing it, I may pull my hair out. Mainly because I've gotten 5 other cds this week that sound exactly like this. It's not terrible... but it's not great either. If anyone replies to this review with "you don't know what you're talking about this band RAWKKKSSS!!!!" it will prove my point that rich white kids have found a new "grunge" to blast in their cul-de-sacs. Well they can have it... I'm going to put on some In-Quest and probably never listen to this again.
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3/5
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Comments (100)

GnarWill
5/24/2004 9:03:00 PM
I'm honestly not even going to bother with this disc

ivory_lines_lead
5/24/2004 11:17:00 PM
i liked the mp3's they had..they're making a stop here in Houston with Alexisonfire and Silverstein..hope to catch them!

The Underground Man
5/25/2004 3:29:00 AM
wow, no more please

Bounty Hunter
5/25/2004 3:51:00 AM
meh, nothing special

Mechanical Birds
5/25/2004 2:41:00 PM
this release was actually highley anticipated in my area,but i think it sucks. i every one of thier songs they say heart,and have that single string-picking shit going on.sounds like everything else.

IncinerateTheSky
5/25/2004 7:18:00 PM
yeh true emo sucks face...
but whats wrong with being a little open minded about music, indie to deathmetal, i listen to it all, and its all wonderful i think...but i know people don't realize or think like that, their stuck in their own world of metalcore or emo...so what if someone wants to be emotional...who gives a fuck what they want...

evenxstars
5/25/2004 8:58:00 PM
Hahaha....I like these guys...

fakeitlikeyoumatter
5/25/2004 10:15:00 PM
i like hawthorne heights

GoodTimesGone
5/25/2004 10:18:00 PM
in all the ads i see for these guys, they always talk about their "triple guitar attack". what good is bragging about having three guitar players when none of them is doing a single thing interesting in the songs?

pat burke
5/26/2004 4:54:00 PM
it's crap

JaRAD
5/26/2004 5:00:00 PM
They're from around here, and while it's cool that local bands get exposure, I'd rather see something different get boosted than the same old shit.

love.loathe.repeat
5/26/2004 6:11:00 PM
Maybe if the mp3 wasn't a shitty demo...

love.loathe.repeat
5/26/2004 6:12:00 PM
Maybe if the mp3 wasn't a shitty demo...

xSANCHOx
5/26/2004 10:43:00 PM
I see this band like everywhere and they totally suck...if u never heard of them keep it that way and go listen to something a whole lot better.

RIPE-with-decay
5/28/2004 4:06:00 AM
I have seen these guys a live. They are nice guys. And fun. But not my taste in music. Oh well they are doing something with their lives. Non the less.

MyFinalThought
6/1/2004 3:17:00 PM
This Band And Cd is Fucking Awesome

yourmom810kids
6/2/2004 10:58:00 PM
i love these kids!

Glowjar
6/5/2004 12:10:00 AM
predictable emo again

fatkidrunningccc
6/8/2004 12:31:00 AM
they arent bad, i dont know why everyone thinks there so bad. ohio is for lovers is a pretty good song, better than the two they have here.

yourmom810kids
6/20/2004 11:12:00 PM
good song...ohio is for lovers...one of their best

tnuclearb
6/29/2004 5:56:00 PM
u kids are mean. their awesome

fakeitlikeyoumatter
8/17/2004 7:53:00 PM
well since i posted the the last comment on here (back in may) i've come to really like hawthorne heights. they may sound like a lot of other bands out there. but their lyrics.. oh what the hell i sound like a fag talking about lyrics. i like them. the end.

*There_is*
8/20/2004 4:05:00 AM
watever these people may think, i enjoyed it
haha, oh well, keep up the gud work guys

Cut6my9wristsxX
8/22/2004 6:41:00 PM
i actually like them alot

Steve
8/22/2004 7:43:00 PM
That's because you suck and like horrible music. Why don't you actually go cut your wrists?

_Jess_
8/22/2004 7:52:00 PM
^ Yeah, that's a good suggestion.
I like Hawthorne Heights. Not the most creative band out there, but the singer has awesome vocals. Glad to know I like horrible music.
I like Hawthorne Heights. Not the most creative band out there, but the singer has awesome vocals. Glad to know I like horrible music.

LoveSicGunLoaded
8/31/2004 2:21:00 AM
i thought they are pretty good...didn't impress me much, but i'd give them time to develop and see what happens

ra0r87
9/6/2004 2:59:00 AM
there ownge plus++ give it up for these guys!

TrustxIsxDead
10/14/2004 4:00:00 PM
I like them a lot, but Thursday is way better.

tommyVoltage
10/14/2004 4:01:00 PM
i have it... its okay, nothing great

a heartshot lie
10/22/2004 3:24:00 PM
Alright.....Thursday is no where near Hawthorne Heights....but all right

cbrickhouse
10/22/2004 3:25:00 PM
you sure do like alot of bad music

.:.Anterraboy.:.
10/23/2004 3:18:00 AM
you don't know what you're talking about this band RAWKKKSSS!!!!... just joking shit band crappy music

George
10/23/2004 3:26:00 AM
this thread is full of terrible user names.

OhMissMae
11/7/2004 5:35:00 PM
ok whose terrible and whose not. sorry im new. but i do really like this band

Oabbey
11/7/2004 7:07:00 PM
i instantly get in a bad mood as soon as i hear that faggots voice. my sister wakes me up every moring blasting that mess

krysszilla
11/13/2004 8:21:00 AM
thursday > hawthorne heights

the audio of being
11/13/2004 9:38:00 AM
notice the similarites in all the people that said this band was good

hxcemo
11/30/2004 4:53:00 PM
going to see them tomorrow, i love them and i'm not rich muahahaha lol

brian.
11/30/2004 5:27:00 PM
ignore the following posters from now on:
ivory_lines_lead, evenxstars, IncinerateTheSky, fakeitlikeyoumatter, MyFinalThought, yourmom810kids, fatkidrunningccc, tnuclearb, brand_new326, Cut6my9wristsxX, xXBamLuvrXx, ra0r87, TrustxIsxDead, a heartshot lie, .:.Anterraboy.:., tequila hawt-e, krysszilla, hxcemo
ivory_lines_lead, evenxstars, IncinerateTheSky, fakeitlikeyoumatter, MyFinalThought, yourmom810kids, fatkidrunningccc, tnuclearb, brand_new326, Cut6my9wristsxX, xXBamLuvrXx, ra0r87, TrustxIsxDead, a heartshot lie, .:.Anterraboy.:., tequila hawt-e, krysszilla, hxcemo

Haste The Day
11/30/2004 7:06:00 PM
hawthorne heights is such an awesome band if you dont like them i shall take you upon a hill and beat you rapidly with sticks.

Steve
11/30/2004 7:11:00 PM
You like Hawthorne Heights and are trying to be tough.
We got a real comedian here.
We got a real comedian here.

chris_curses
11/30/2004 7:17:00 PMOriginally posted by:brian.
ignore the following posters from now on:
ivory_lines_lead, evenxstars, IncinerateTheSky, fakeitlikeyoumatter, MyFinalThought, yourmom810kids, fatkidrunningccc, tnuclearb, brand_new326, Cut6my9wristsxX, xXBamLuvrXx, ra0r87, TrustxIsxDead, a heartshot lie, .:.Anterraboy.:., tequila hawt-e, krysszilla, hxcemo
ESPECIALLY hxcemo, i don't think i've ever read a post of his that wasnt crammed full of dogshit.

samiam
12/5/2004 7:19:00 PM
quick cash in before q102 stops playing this stuff and goes back to dance music 28 of the 30 minutes.

samiam
12/5/2004 7:22:00 PM
quick send this disc to your local q102 station and get them mainstream before they chance to get their 15 minutes of fame is up. They will be back to playing dance music on mtv and pop radio soon.

Mike.
12/5/2004 7:29:00 PM
awful band. i am correct. don't argue.

bbgogo
12/5/2004 7:34:00 PM
drumer is suck

OhioIs4Lovers
12/5/2004 9:17:00 PM
Alright you people need to get off it. Hawthorne Heights is a great band. Just cause you think they sound like another band don't mean crap. Most people like that. It's not like you wanna sit there and listen to something totally new because whenever a band dares to do that they FAIL! So get off it people. I love Hawthorne Heights! I have loved them since they came out. Also,I aint no rich little white kid so get off that gay theory to.

DennisQ
12/5/2004 9:22:00 PMOriginally posted by:OhioIs4Lovers
Alright you people need to get off it. Hawthorne Heights is a great band. Just cause you think they sound like another band don't mean crap. Most people like that. It's not like you wanna sit there and listen to something totally new because whenever a band dares to do that they FAIL! So get off it people. I love Hawthorne Heights! I have loved them since they came out. Also,I aint no rich little white kid so get off that gay theory to.
shut up.

bbgogo
12/6/2004 1:34:00 AM
yeah ! fuck him.ohio is for love is piece of shit ,but i like that song ,fuck
you won't love them foever and they don't need your support either ! you sucker
you won't love them foever and they don't need your support either ! you sucker

steph-into-stone
12/28/2004 11:30:00 PM
this review is spot on, YUK, could someone please shut that winey singer up?

Thisdayforward60
1/25/2005 10:02:00 AM
If i was to meet these guys i would step on the screamers foot, for one reason....becuase he would just make that annoying monitone scream that just makes yopu want to fuck a horse.......I hate this album with great passion......I never heard a bunch of men try to make people cry............well i cryed becuase i just like like i had to take a shit, it was hurting my ass to much..............Stupid riffs....pointless lyrics........and the meaning to the songs.....forget it, i am not 10 years old, and certanly sick of bands trying to make hard points when it is just imbarressing .......

emoJoe
1/26/2005 6:21:00 PM
eh.. they're okay.. but it's sort of generic. =/

cbrickhouse
1/26/2005 6:59:00 PM
a whole lot of you in this thread like real crappy music.

LoveSicGunLoaded
1/29/2005 3:13:00 AM
okay i just saw them live with the black maria (who kick ass), number one fan, and spitalfield. i was actually impressed with hawthorne heights live. they really know how to get a crowd moving. i have a lot more respect for them as musicians and as people. i got to meet most of the group, and they are nice guys. people who are dissing on their music...fine. you dont have to like them, but you dont have to disrespect them either. bleh, whatever. thats my rant.

grillobiscuits
2/7/2005 8:49:00 AM
(throws cd out of window)

grillobiscuits
2/7/2005 8:49:00 AM
(throws cd out of window)

loserhead
3/2/2005 10:41:00 AM
i bought the album and i love it!!!

JoshWX
3/2/2005 11:23:00 AM
cut my wrists and black my eyes.....WHOA...this is TOO hardcore for me..

jon.
3/2/2005 11:31:00 AM
this band is geigh

OhMissMae
3/4/2005 6:40:00 PM
i like it.

Clairvoyant Disease
3/15/2005 5:51:00 PM
i like this band.. but they try to sound like Thursday to much.. Thursday's doesn't need people copying them..

deathtomyxheartx3
3/27/2005 2:12:00 AM
go to yahoo.com and listen to there LIVE version
they suck

Y0U''''REMYxDiSC0
3/27/2005 10:58:00 PM
hmm well i like this band but it's not worth it to get defensive like some people.

LoveSicGunLoaded
4/11/2005 1:24:00 AM
i love this band and the songs!

left_without_goodbye
4/27/2005 6:08:00 PM
you guys suck. i love hawthorne heights. they are awesome. but that's my opinion.

hot_fuss
6/12/2005 3:14:00 AM
Hawthorne Heights sounds like what Thursday would have sounded like if they had released an album when they were 7 years old. That's about the only way I can really compare Thursday's music to Hawthorne Heights. The only reason I bought "The Silence In Black And White" was because the cd was supposed to be for fans of Thursday. Also, I bought the CD about a year ago, so I didn't really know that much about the band at the time. What an ass I am. All this Cd really is, is a chance to cash in on the "emo" explosion. Every time the guy screams, I feel all uncomfortable because it just sounds so forced and unnecessary. The album sounds like it a bunch of b-sides from Story of the Year's album. Which isn't saying much. I think the lead singer has a nice voice but that's one of the few positives on this record.

lifeonstandby_x
6/18/2005 8:49:00 PM
:O THEY ARE AWESOMMEE

vanillasmile
6/18/2005 9:17:00 PM
i don't understand whats so great about this band...i think it's just because hardcore is being so commercialized anymore. it will get old again like the whole "nu-metal" phase, and then will go back to being good(HOPEFULLY). ha. yeah right.
i used to listen to a lot of victory bands too...blood for blood is still fucking awesome to me!
i used to listen to a lot of victory bands too...blood for blood is still fucking awesome to me!

Cory Monster
6/19/2005 2:09:00 AM
is that the entire album up for download???
HAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
HAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

lolerskates
6/28/2005 9:37:00 PM
..................

hotdogonthego
7/9/2005 3:53:00 AM
*barfs* silver bullet
only good song.
ohio is for lovers was okay
and then it was over played
and it sucked.

ghostdeeds
7/9/2005 2:43:00 PM
This is 1 of the best albums ive heard. i like the voicals and music. and i like how they switch up the beat in the songs.

asdfjasfjas
7/9/2005 4:38:00 PM
Woah! A band switches up beats in their songs.
Listen, all of these comparisons to Thursday piss me off. If any of you had ever seen Thursday live, especially back during the pre/post-waiting era, you would know that they put on a fucking amazing show and had something real there.This album, and I've listened to it repeatedly thanks to my trendy brother, is generic corporate produced garbage.
"Swim through these waters
My lungs collapse as I'm gasping for air
I'll breathe you in (and I'll breathe you in)
You are my oxygen alone"
This is all a shitty reproduction of what Thursday did, along with taking out much of the artistic nature of Thursday's work by putting the songs into the first person. I have no problem with new music, or the young kids or anything, but the fact that you all jock shitty bands like this is a testament to the dying creativity and authenticity of the youth.
Listen, all of these comparisons to Thursday piss me off. If any of you had ever seen Thursday live, especially back during the pre/post-waiting era, you would know that they put on a fucking amazing show and had something real there.This album, and I've listened to it repeatedly thanks to my trendy brother, is generic corporate produced garbage.
"Swim through these waters
My lungs collapse as I'm gasping for air
I'll breathe you in (and I'll breathe you in)
You are my oxygen alone"
This is all a shitty reproduction of what Thursday did, along with taking out much of the artistic nature of Thursday's work by putting the songs into the first person. I have no problem with new music, or the young kids or anything, but the fact that you all jock shitty bands like this is a testament to the dying creativity and authenticity of the youth.

freestylemx24
7/25/2005 7:36:00 PM
lol do u guys that dont like this band actually even listen to the entire song??????

circa_motion23
8/2/2005 3:59:00 AM
I saw them at Warped and I thought they rocked!

Princess
8/2/2005 8:28:00 AM
HH sent out a mass email for fans to bring a cowbell to the show and play the cowbell during the bullet song.
so if your going to the show, remember the cowbell.
so if your going to the show, remember the cowbell.

berries
8/2/2005 8:51:00 AMOriginally posted by:freestylemx24
lol do u guys that dont like this band actually even listen to the entire song??????
SHH

dear lover
8/2/2005 8:52:00 AM
i dont see what the fuss is about, wow, hawthorn heights have 3 guitars! but the funny thing is, not one of them have a bit of talent! these guys are terrible, and i hope that they have fun lacking integrity and touring with taking back sunday until time ends. and itll never matter who headlines, because they both sound exactly.fucking.alike.

SenseOfChaos
8/9/2005 2:34:00 AM
Complete love.

sarahbrock
8/27/2005 8:24:00 PM
great band.
whys everyone hating.

cbrickhouse
8/27/2005 9:54:00 PM
because this band suck

the pigeon
8/27/2005 9:56:00 PM
is this turning into an atreyu thread again? if it hits 150, shut this bitch down.

RazorRamon
8/28/2005 12:11:00 AM
yeah...this band is still terrible

Rawkerchic26
9/4/2005 9:56:00 PM
I like this band its not that bad

Sara.
9/4/2005 9:58:00 PM
It's worse than you realize.

djinn
10/7/2005 1:33:00 AM
theyre fucking awesome!!!

djinn
10/7/2005 1:38:00 AM
theyre fucking awesome!!!

flinty
10/18/2005 9:38:00 AM
i love them more than anything<33!!!!!!!!!!!1111

LifeNotLost.
10/28/2005 6:42:00 PM
ill admit, i really like this cd. the three guitars gives them an advantage and it seems to work. there are some good layering effects. sure it might be generic, but that doesnt mean its bad.

Steve
10/28/2005 7:13:00 PM
The only people defending this are 18 or under.

TheLastGunslinger
11/4/2005 7:32:00 AM
wow umm im twenty four and im still in love with them they are one of the only bands that actually make me show emotion they rawwwwwwwk rofl

sup sluts
11/4/2005 8:56:00 AM
haha oh man..

sen05
11/14/2005 11:38:00 PM
i love hawthorne heights.. listen to niki fm.. or blue burns orange..

alexdizzle
11/15/2005 11:32:00 PM
pplz are retarded i love em

case
11/16/2005 2:47:00 AM
fuck this shit

DennisQ
11/16/2005 3:11:00 AM
the song i heard sounded EXACTLY like Saves The Day. THIS BAND IS GARBAGE.

froggie
11/30/2005 2:29:00 PM
fuck yall all i've been wanting to do since i got on this computer is listen to ohio is for lovers by hawthorne heights

Screams_Of_Erida
12/31/2005 6:10:00 PM
I hate Victory Records so I hate Hawthorne Heights...........

scream-04*
1/15/2006 11:54:00 AM
For the most part they write some good songs.I only like about 4 songs by these guys.Hopfully they can release something that will be good alround.